many people ask why doesn't god interefere to help suffering mankind?
biblically the answer is very simple: mankind exercise their freedom of choice and in so doing chose to be slaves to sin or the demons if you like.
god respects that choice however foolish it may be.
Hello Greendawn;
So, you are right, God is stepping back.. and letting alot of suffering take place.. And I think the WT is right, too..
1. Letting man and Satan have their way, to prove over time.. which way is better.
2. As with Job, God did step back to see if Job still loved him and his ways..
many people ask why doesn't god interefere to help suffering mankind?
biblically the answer is very simple: mankind exercise their freedom of choice and in so doing chose to be slaves to sin or the demons if you like.
god respects that choice however foolish it may be.
Greendawn:
I think you are right, and also the WT...Okay, they are right about some things...
The 2 issues.. God proving by the course of time..that they need God's guidelines as the right and wrong..
and to see if man would love him even under adversities..
i don't think i would under any circumstances.
under what criteria would you?
or wouldn't you?
Hello, I would never go back...because I want to be a Christian, who is taught be the holy spirit and God.. Not by a few old men who want POWER over others, by calling them a GOVERNING BODY. I like home studies with a few people where everyone is equal. (all brothers)
many witnesses say that when jesus was resurrected he came back as a spirit.
yet their own authority, new worlds translation of the holy spirit, state different.........."see my hand and my feet, that is i myself; feel me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you behold that i have.
"(luke 24:39).
Wow, how interesting.....! The Wt teaches reincarnation....how funny... I read your scriptures... Let me print them out for the friends...
Luke 24:16 NIV But they were kept from recognizing him.
Luke 24:31 NIV Then their eyes were opened and they recognized him, and he disappeared from their sight.
I never knew why they didn't recognize him..so I just accepted the WT version. Reincarnation....!!!
Resurrection means coming back to life as one dies. Nothing changed, but to have a glorfied body, yet the same man. Jesus had all the power and glory of God.
good point!!!!!
many witnesses say that when jesus was resurrected he came back as a spirit.
yet their own authority, new worlds translation of the holy spirit, state different.........."see my hand and my feet, that is i myself; feel me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you behold that i have.
"(luke 24:39).
Hi Frank:
Here is an excerpt from the Insite book by the WT...
After Jesus’ resurrection he appeared in different bodies. Mary mistook him for the gardener. (Joh 20:14, 15) He again appeared, entering a room with locked doors, having a body with wound marks. (Joh 20:24-29) Several times he manifested himself and was recognized, not by his appearance, but by his words and actions. (Lu 24:15, 16, 30, 31, 36-45; Mt 28:16-18) Once a miracle performed at his direction opened his disciples’ eyes to his identity. (Joh 21:4-7, 12) Jesus, having been resurrected as a spirit (1Pe 3:18), could materialize a body for the occasion as the angels did in past times, when they appeared as messengers.
IPet. 3:18 NIV For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison..
I liked your scripture, about Jesus saying, he was not a spirit.. So, was he, in and out of a spirit body, to a fleshly body...? What do you think?
i wonder if the limey liberals are as hypocritical as our home=grown american ones?
these guys change positions more than the watchtower writing staff!
the hypocrisy of democrats .
Progressive liberal, democrats rule...
day 1. .
day 2. .
day 3. .
Even if they can't leave because of family ties, such as myself, they are unproductive and unfruitful because of what they know.
Hello, and thank you very much for the summary as this is my 1st one, I've missed in 26 years... I wanted to say, maybe if you took a stand and denounced the religion...(if you believe, it's bad), you may help your family and friends, and be blessed by God... What do you think..??? Some things are worth stirring things up for.. I think anyways...
so, even back when i was a true believer i noticed this... .
this watchtower study today, i just got back from, was all about how great the elders are.
what always wigs me out about these things (because they trot this stuff out in a wt study every year or two) is how the elder conducting the study is up there talking about and praising the elders in the third person, saying how great they are, when he is an elder.
I don't even think we should have elders in the position they are in:
They are:
1. Judges
2. teachers
3. disiplinarians
4. scary
5. fathers, even though they won't admit to the title
in a thread called" can any jw answer this" by jerome, alan f had stated that the term.
everlasting to everlasting applied only to the god of israel.
he could find no scripture in which this term applied to jesus.. i found some good info.
Here's a new twist for ya. God and Jesus both had a beginning....
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hope the scans show up ok.. the article is presented as it comes, for your own assessment.
you could not make this stuff up!
wow.....so happy to be gone.......What a dreadful thing to be afraid of Big Brother judging and punishing you....!!!!!!!!!!!!
